Mesh Modeling, Part 3: Autodesk’s Fusion 360 Aspires Subdivision Modeling
Matt Lombard posted on September 21, 2020 |
Interview with Harv Saund from Autodesk
(Image courtesy of Autodesk Fusion 360.)
(Image courtesy of Autodesk.)

The discussion about subdivision modeling has opened up significantly since the start of this series. The addition to Convergent modeling in Solid Edge is one example. Subd technology itself is well developed but has been applied mostly in computer graphics applications rather than in engineering. It’s a product of 1970s technology further developed in the 1990s. Subdivision modeling has traditionally brought us things like animated movies, game characters and scenes, as well as 3D CGI art. Software packages that have traditionally been used to create subd models include 3ds Max, Maya, Blender, Cinema 4D, and many others. 

What’s relatively new here is the inclusion of subd-type data, tools and techniques in CAD software meant primarily for designing manufacturable parts. This article is going to look specifically at how Autodesk Fusion 360 has implemented T-Splines technology and how it plans to move forward with the technology.

For readers who aren’t up to date on the subdivision modeling tools being added to traditional mechanical CAD software, Fusion 360 is an online CAD tool (local executables, cloud data) from Autodesk. It includes all the major design techniques that you could want in a CAD product: 

  • Parametric history-based solids
  • Freeform (T-Splines)
  • Surface (history-based NURBS)
  • Mesh (scan data)
  • Direct (non-history based)

Each of these modeling techniques deserves an article of its own, but this time we’re focusing on T-Splines. T-Splines exists between subd techniques and NURBS data types. It enables you to switch back and forth between the two more easily. 

Harv Saund, product manager, Fusion 360, at Autodesk (Picture courtesy of Mark3D.)

Harv Saund, product manager, Fusion 360, at Autodesk (Picture courtesy of Mark3D.)

Harv Saund is a product manager on Autodesk’s Fusion 360 team. Saund answered some questions about T-Splines and subd modeling in Fusion 360:

Fusion 360 has T-Splines, which is subd type modeling. Do you still see people using history-based parametrics when tools like T-Splines are available?

The short answer is yes. We believe that history-based parametrics is a super powerful way to create a design and make changes along the way. What we want to achieve with our current T-Splines/Form/subd modeling is the ability for customers to use a mixture of tools to create the final design. subd definitely has its place in traditional history-based parametric workflows, such as creating ergonomic surfaces, especially when the two can adjust and change as one. This is what we are working toward.

What are the barriers to picking up subd techniques if you’re steeped in 20 years of doing things with sketch-feature-history models?

There are two big barriers to adoption of T-Splines/Form/subd:

  • Dimensional control—traditionally, surfaces are controlled using dimensions and sketches, so in our Form toolset we can apply a dimension to the adjustment; however, we cannot control any of the geometry created using the traditional sketches and dimensions associated with traditional surfacing. 
  • Methodology—T-Splines/Form/subd is a very different way of working compared to traditional surfacing and the sketch feature history modeling. It takes a bit of getting used to and a strong understanding about the impact you’re going to make to the surface and the flow of the surface. 

Having subd available, what type of work do you still recommend people do in history-based traditional surfacing?

We don’t see T-Splines/Form/subd replacing traditional history-based workflows. We see both as approaches to create the final product that a customer wants. There are times when history-based makes more sense, i.e., when the model needs parametric changes made to it—dimensional variations, small curve manipulation, etc. And there are areas where T-Splines are so much faster and easier to complete the task, as with ergonomic shapes such as grips and organic shapes. 

Form also has also been used a lot to convey a concept and rapidly iterate on it to get to a final idea where a more developed model can be created.   

Traditional surfacing is also widely used to create the A side surface of a design using standard tools. 

For Autodesk, we want to be at a point where a customer uses the tool that will get them to the most efficient design fastest and with the highest degree of accuracy. That’s why we believe that creating a bridge between T-Splines and history-based toolsets is key.

(Image courtesy of Autodesk Fusion 360.)
(Image courtesy of Autodesk.)
  1. Is there a particular point in the product development process at which you recommend jumping from history-based modeling to another type of modeling?

This is a tricky question to answer as every product designed will have different approaches that could be taken depending on who is designing the product. We have seen a lot of customers utilize history-based modeling as it gives them the flexibility and freedom to change the design as they see fit at any stage in the process, especially when a client wants a change made. 

We have also seen many customers utilize Direct Modeling when trying to make changes to models or even building models from scratch when history isn’t important and they know this model will be a one-off with no additional changes needed. 

To add to the above two points, we have also seen customers jump in and out of T-Splines to create different types of shapes to augment their current design or even just rapidly iterate on concepts. 

We also have customers that take advantage of all three at different points in a product development cycle. So, it’s difficult to put a particular point on when to jump to another type of modeling approach as it really depends on the product being created and the engineer who creates the product.  

(Image courtesy of Autodesk Fusion 360.)
(Image courtesy of Autodesk.)
  1. How do you characterize the difference between direct modeling and subd? Is there a particular design process/technique or shape that forms a boundary between work you would use one method for and the other?

Direct modeling and subdivisional modeling are two very different methodologies. 

Direct modeling is a non-history-based modeling technique that allows customers to create and subtract geometry without capturing a design history. This is a great way to fix and repair imported geometry or create a model quickly that will be a definitive one-off without the need for further changes. Usually the tools used in this approach would be standard toolsets such as extrude, sweep, delete face, etc.

T-Splines/Form/ subd is very much based on developing geometry that would ideally sit within a history-based modeling approach. At the moment this isn’t fully parametric, but we are investigating how we can achieve this. This approach will usually use only the specific subd toolsets—Edit form, Edit by Curve, Match, etc.—while subd toolsets usually are only used to create free-form and organic geometry and rarely use standard toolsets. 

  1. How are you still able to complete the traditional workflow from subd to drawings and CNC machining?

We see T-Splines/Form/subd as a part of the product development process and are working on defining how these types of geometry fit into drawings. This will help document the overall product within a traditional documentation workflow. 

As far as CNC goes, we can make sure the geometry to go to CNCs is manufacturable by using our analysis tools and then send that geometry into the manufacturing workspace, apply toolpaths, and export codes to the machine. 

(Image courtesy of Autodesk.)
(Image courtesy of Autodesk.)

Summary

Autodesk has had T-Splines available for its customers for some years now, and it is clearly a useful tool for simplifying the dark art of making product-quality surface models using history-based features and tools. It is made even more relevant by Rhino and Solid Edge adding their own subd tools to their established non-high-end CAD tools. 

If subd modeling is to become a real mainstay in the midrange and lower-end CAD market, CAD customers need to make themselves more literate on subdivision modeling tools, methods and workflows. Autodesk has been a pioneer at bringing this technology down to lower-priced CAD tools, and this only bodes well for the future of mechanical CAD.

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